Audio Noir deliver his newest three tracker entitled Pressure as he takes us on a sublime progressive journey. His last outing R3WIND stunned as it brought a bit of old school into the modern era. In comparison we can see what a talent this guy is as he is able to produce top quality sounds for yesterday and today, that is a true gift in the world of electronic music.
First up we have Pressure which takes the progressive sound to the deeper levels. Right from the off we get a cool deep vibe as the bass pulses with the rhythms of the percussions. Intricate patterns are borne out of expertly crafted arps as smooth synth key play out in the background. The introduction of a monster bassline takes the track to a new level and is joined by a superb single note synth that adds a wonderful texture. A short break leads us back into the deep vibes of this track as we get locked in. Absolutely stunning stuff yet again from Audio Noir!
Physical is up next and sets off with a percussion laden intro, this soon expands with the addition of some very cool, almost experimental sounds that blend together beautifully. Brilliantly constructed arrangement with a multitude of sounds that will have you back for more. A smooth deep bass soon joins in as the groove goes into full swing with even more sounds coming into the mix. You’ll find a nice hidden gem late on as a classic hoover style rave sample makes an appearance. This guy just gets better and better!
The Man In The Paper Hat rounds off this superb pack. Straight into a full on flowing progressive groove with phat kicks, crispy hats and some stunning percussion arrangements. The bassline bursts through and grabs you with its throbbing grooves forcing you to move. The track breaks down into a sublime synth sequence with its dynamic signature before we are ejected right back into this full on prog fuelled monster. A definite must have!
Belgian DJ and producer Quincy aka Quincy Steveninck returns with the sublime Acid Jungle and is backed up with three top notch remixes from Bonzai’s elite roster. His last track In Balance was heavily featured on many top download sits and saw rave reviews from many quarters. Quincy himself started producing after a long stint as club and event promoter for various venues around Belgium. His Age Of Love gig ran for more than 6 years and is still regarded as a major success among Belgium’s seasoned clubbers. Quincy is a vinyl only DJ and has graced the decks at many parties, he also enjoyed top releases as part of Soul Phonic on Punk’ID Records.
The Original Mix gets the party started with nice chunky kick and percussive led intro that builds into a cool steady groove. A deep plucky bass is unleashed alongside a wavering synth that roams throughout the sound beautifully. We start to get a bit of an acid line creeping through and on the break this becomes more pronounced and is joined by a chorus of synth arps before getting right back into full swing as this deep, hypnotic track enters its final run.
The hugely impressive Manu Riga is back to remix duties with his Deacidified Remix. Manu delivered his usual brand of quality progressive on the re-released remix pack of Transfagarasan Highway by Audio Noir and no doubt we will see much more from this highly talented artist. Here the remix kicks off with an immersive progressive vibe as chunky kicks are lined up against a cool flowing bass with a subtle percussion arrangement coming through. Wafting synth pads create a sublime atmosphere as the bass ramps itself up a gear and transforms into a powerful resonating monster. Melodic sequences find their way through the maelstrom of basses giving the track a stark contrast and keeping you hooked right to the last beat.
Belgian Nice Therapy is next up to the remix desk with his 6AM-On-Acid Remix. We last saw Nice Therapy on Frankie Jones’ Belgium Goes Detroit on Bonzai Basiks and we are sure to be in for a real treat here. The remix intros with smooth kick and offset bass with crispy clear hats soon joining in. A rising synth pad gains momentum and is accompanied by the first inklings of an acid line which becomes a big focus on the track. Plucky FX deliver some cool distractions and these soon combine to form their own melodic sequence. The break is where it’s at as melodies come together in a strangely uplifting way while acid blips go off all around. A perfectly timed climax brings the track back into a full on progressive groove. Lots going on here and a joy to listen to as new patterns are found with each listen.
Top Bonzai artist Audio Noir lends his skills on remix duties with his Oldskool Remix. Saying that this guys is on fire at the moment is an understatement. His soon to be released Rewind EP shows us how the oldskool era can be applied with modern technology and this remix is also testament to that. Solid intro as tightly arranged percussions lead us into the mother of all kicks, an instantly recognisable kick that was the basis of so many classics. The track moves into gear at the first very short break where a super cool classic vocal sample leads us to the superb bassline that just pulsates right through the track. A very cool acid line takes the track to the next level and beyond and on the break this is where it really shines. This track has it all, it pays tribute to fantastic era and it does it with so much respect, this is no doubt one of the tracks you have got to have, raise the roof time is here!
When it comes to progressive one name will always come to mind, Gai Barone. A veteran within the scene Gai has been responsible for some gems in the past and here he continues that trend with the fantastic ‘Cartaria’. Backed up with three superb remixes you are in for a real treat on this one.
First up we have the Original which takes a dive into the deeper side of prog with a subtle, percussive intro and a haunting pad. The beats filter through beautifully and bring a nice warm edge to the sound as the percussions begin to tighten up into a solid flowing rhythmic sequence. A mesmerizing arp plays throughout the track and really takes your mind away as the track evolves. Cool melodies ebb and flow as they tease their way making you want more, while on the break the synths intensify and climax into a full blown progressive workout, top notch!
Maik Relaunch turns up the heat with the first of two remixes from this ever popular artist. His Early Morning Remix is aptly titled as it is a track you would expect to hear at the end of sweat inducing, pumping progressive party. Big chunky kicks hold the track together as crispy hats are contrasted with a bubbly bass that provides a solid platform for what is to come. Big sweeping synths dominate the sound and on the first break you will have your mind blown by the clarity and sheer tangibility of the synths. The track kicks back into a solid progressive groove before those synths come around again, an absolute monster and a definite must for those playlists!
Relaunch’s second remix, the Late Night Remix, is much tougher offering as you would expect. A perfect track for the peak time festivities as edgy beats are met with a fantastic synth hook. Nice and chunky kicks alongside tight percussions release flowing rhythms. The bass meanders through the sound beautifully as it pulsates through the track. Those big and powerful synths make a return on the break and give this track big floor appeal, not to be missed.
A man who needs no introduction, he has been responsible for a vast amount of remixes and original works lately on Bonzai Progressive and we always get excited when his creations are delivered. Another Audio Noir Trip goes right into the soul of darker progressive vibes. The intro boasts a chunky kick with a cool FXed vocal over the top as a beautifully haunting pad rises up from the depths. All the while a superbly tight percussion arrangement steadily builds up a solid rhythmic base. The first break brings forth a wonderful array of sounds before kicking back in with the most surprising and superb basslines you are likely to hear any time soon. Smooth melodic sequences ease in on the main break as the track builds back up into the main groove. Fantastic cut from Audio Noir yet again!
Audio Noir continues his run of top quality EP’s with the brilliant four tracker, ‘R3wind’. Each track takes us on a journey through retro sounds that are garnered with a modern twist.
Audio Noir – R3wind EP, out this week on Bonzai Progressive, is featured by Beatport on the Breaks genre page!
Audio Noir continues his run of top quality EP’s with the brilliant four tracker, ‘R3wind’. Each track takes us on a journey through retro sounds that are garnered with a modern twist.
First up we are transported back to ‘1988’ with a supped up ride into breakbeat and classic house grooves. The intro boasts a full on breakbeat vibe with a few vocal samples coming through. We soon get into a 4/4 pattern as a super cool old school bass fills the sound. The breakdown ushers in some nice strings before slamming right back into the sound along with superb retro synth samples that are instantly recognisable. A bit of the old hardcore on Bonzai Progressive which will draw a lot of attention, no doubt.
‘1989’ intros with a cool percussion line alongside a nice and simple synth. Big chunky kicks soon take over and pack a huge punch. A deep resonating bass come in and a driving rhythm ensues. You will connect instantly with the classic vocal sample, and not only that, you will once again remember ’89 as the hoover sounds dominate. So many elements make up this track and even thought the sounds have been given a modern makeover you will relate in a big way, superb stuff.
Classic breaks are the basis of the intro to ‘1990’, and alongside a well crafted percussion section your dancing feet will be moved involuntarily. Phat kicks and crispy hats keep the rhythms flowing alongside a cool synth line and ultra classic vocal samples. The break down has a wonderful hard edged synth that bounces along and takes us back into the main track with a fantastic deep bass in tow. As if we aren’t spoiled enough, in comes an awesome old school piano riff that will blow the roof off any venue!!
We end this brilliant EP with ‘1991’. Massive chunky kicks provide the intro alongside cool FX and shuffling hats. A huge dominating bassline soon takes over and will be enough to shatter any sound system into submission. In the background we get a taste of some very cool vocal samples while up top we have an infectious synth hook which fits the sound perfectly. The track shifts slightly as the bass intensifies bringing in a gated pattern before coming back around to the main sound, just amazing!
Matan Caspi delivers his stunning ‘Just Let Go’ which is backed up with three superb remixes from Audio Noir, Mindgamers and deepAlexander. Matin’s last outing was at the start of 2014 with the wonderful ‘I Wanna’ which saw a lot of support from all over.
First up we have the Original Mix which intros with super crispy hats that gets right up in your face as a nice chunky kick leads into a deep lush bass that comes through to balance things out beautifully. Cool vocal samples dash in and out of the sound adding a nice flow to the vibe. On the break a smooth synth arrangement takes over adding a hint of melody that gives off a contrasting groove, top notch from Matin yet again.
Tallinn based DJing and production duo Mindgamers are first up on remix duty. The guys have been enjoying a lot of attention for their works as their own productions as well as remixes are being picked up all over the world and featuring heavily in many sets and radioshows. Here the guys do what they do best, rock the joint! Right from the off the grooves are infectious, thumpy kicks and a sharp hi hat sequence are the perfect combination. The vocal samples off the original are used well and that bass just teases and teases. Stabby synths bring in a cool vibe and on the break we see these take full control before slamming right back into the main track to continue on this epic progressive house ride!
Audio Noir is up next and yet again he does not disappoint. His remix, Another Audio Noir Trip, is quite simply stunning. He has a way of taking a track and transforming it into something fresh and different while keeping true to the original. Nice whispered vocal on the intro which leads into a cool kick and a sublime percussion arrangement with some fantastic vocal samples over the top. The groove builds and builds before exploding into an analog fuelled, bass driven monster. Quite an energetic vibe off this as the layers build around the track culminating with a superb vibrant synth. Brilliant stuff out of Australia and not to be missed!
deepAlexander aka Sasa Skrobar rounds up the remixes with his stunning take. Sasa’s last release ‘Midnight Launch’ was well received and is a testament to the skills on offer. Big chunky kicks get us going with expertly tweaked vocal samples and fading synths sitting in the background. A cool rhythmic groove is built with the introduction of some great percussion patterns. The track takes a funky turn as a deep throbbing bass is brought forward together with a catchy, soulful vocal. The track is totally driven by that classy bass which has so much character as it binds the track together beautifully. Top stuff and a track you will want in your collection!
Australian DJ and producer Audio Noir is back with another release on Bonzai Progressive with the fantastic “Transfagarasan Highway”. Audio Noir has recently completed a few remixes for Bonzai and here he shows us his talents in epic fashion yet again.
Audio Noir – Transfagarasan Highway, out this week on Bonzai Progressive, is featured by Beatport on the Progressive House genre page!
Audio Noir’s ‘Transfagarasan Highway’ which performed very well on the circuit gets a rerub with the help of some top producers in this massive remix pack.
The Original Mix intros with a wonderful and very distinct sub bass, the bass just eases in effortlessly and you begin to realise how recognisable it is, this track is one that will bring back memories of an awesome time in EDM, all the qualities are there for your aural pleasure. The classic vocal sample will have you jumping in no time along with the rolling bassline and tight arrangement. On the break we are treated to a super cool piano and again that vocal sample will keep you focused in on the journey ahead, simply stunning!
Belgium’s legendary M.I.K.E. is first up to the remix desk with an absolute stomper of a remix. Currently, as you would expect, Mike is always busy with something. He juggles a hectic DJ schedule which takes him all over the world, he churns out the quality from the studio on a regular basis and he still finds the time to engage with his loyal fanbase and spend time with family, how does he do it! On this remix he takes the main elements from the original and adds that M.I.K.E. touch that will light up any floor. A thumping great bass intros alongside some sharp percussions that steadily build a smooth rhythmic vibe. That massive vocal sample gets the veins pumping as the track breaks loose with a classic bassline and techy synths as rolling snares raise the temperature even more. The track continues to build with high octane precision and forces you to get those hands in the air as the break unleashes a massive hook which quite simply blows your mind, top stuff from the master!
Airwave aka one hell of a talented guy is up next to remix duty with his own stunning take on this classy track. Laurent is an extremely busy artist at the moment, he is a regular feature and many venues worldwide and this trend is ever increasing as gigs will be taking him to Canada as well as a recent stint in Goa. He is also a hard working studio artist, at present he has many projects on the go alongside Phi Phi and with J00F, aside from that he lends his talents to remixes like we have here. The track intros with that familiar kick and bass combination as crisp hats and percussions begin to form up. Very cool FX deliver a surreal atmosphere before the track takes on a new dimension with the introduction of some tightly arranged drums. The pace quickens and we soon met with some amazing melodic pads that sweep across the sound which is further enhance by a beautifully deep pipe instrument. The break offers up a sublime sequence of melodies before slamming back into this full on progressive grooving monster, stunning!
The ever impressive Manu Riga is up with his Angel On Earth Mix. Manu is always keeping busy with lots of remix work as well as his own material which we will hope to be seeing very soon. From the get go you can feel the energy dripping off this remix as the kicks pick up the pace. These are complimented by a tweaked stuttering vocal and a bassline that drives the groove with a throbbing punch. Beautifully emotive melodies weave an intricate pattern with an ethnic tinge. The break delivers sweet laced arps which ebb and flow alongside that bubbly bassline. A cool, flowing and intense groove for the floors which is not to be missed.
Next up is Thorin with his stunning remix which is full of deep progressive delights. Thorin churns out quality productions on a regular basis. He has a hugely impressive catalogue of remixes as well as his own material which is always very well received from all quarters. His remix intros with a full on in your face groove as chunky kicks are met with contrastingly lush pads a tough edged bass, which makes for a cool combination. This groove powers on relentlessly up to the first short break where the pads come to the fore. Soon after a nice and smooth synth comes into play and adds cool textures to the sound. At the main break some more melodies ease in and that vocal sample also makes a showing before the track kicks right back into the main sound, which makes this a must have track in any set!
The Zen Mix is pure bliss, a huge soundscape that you wish would go on and on. The bass just flows along and is the perfect match for the myriad of sounds in attendance. Spitting pipes, bright synths and that superb vocal blend together beautifully creating an awesome atmosphere where you will lose yourself for a while, brilliant!
Chantola recently delivered his superb artist album ‘Lost In Funny Space Games’ which is being very well received from many quarters and which is no surprise when you have gems like ‘It’s Not What You Say’. This track has been plucked from the album and been subjected to a host of top quality remixes, no less than six remixes in total from top class artists will no doubt get any floor shakin’!
First up is the Original Mix which intros with a beefy kick and some well clipped hats giving that classic house flavour. A strong, throbbing bass sits on the offbeat and adds a huge depth to the sound. Stunning vocals come through and are the perfect companion for a mesmerizing synth pad lurking in the background. The track transforms itself throughout, building the layers beautifully and ending up with fine slice of progressive house. Definitely not to be missed this one, get it into those playlists quick!
Crocy is first at hand to offer his remix skills and what a job he does here. Crocy’s remix takes on a very smooth and subtle groove, the kicks give off a cool laidback feel with a big punch and sit so well with the expertly crafted bass riffs. The vocal comes through beautifully here adding a richness to the sound and is accompanied by some nice, distant melodies thanks to a lovely piano sound. Wonderfully deep vibes here and a definite must for those late night sets. For those who would like to leave the vocal behind we also have an instrumental mix from Crocy.
Koen Mertens aka Daddy is up next with his remix. Right from the off we are met with a huge in your face sound as a deep drone blasts out alongside a cool percussion pattern. The kicks soon follow as that drone powers on relentlessly. The vocal comes through with a very cool transformation thanks to some nifty FX work which puts it right at home alongside this monster groove. On the main break the groove simmers down with a cool arp and the vocal before slamming back with an added synth riff that is really gonna rock those floors for sure.
Audio Noir is up next with his Rekonstruction. As usual we are treated to a solid progressive house workout which intros with a rhythmic percussion and a very cool melodic sequence. The kicks fade in very discreetly and bring with them a very powerful thump and are soon joined by a great vocal. The track really sets off on an epic ride with the deep rooted bass being the driving force. As the groove progresses we get a hint of a classic synth stab that teases as it lurks in the background. The track breaks to reveal a little more on those stabs before the bass takes over and we are thrust back into the main groove, wonderful stuff yet again out of Australia.
Next up we have deepAlexander on the remix and he churns out a very cool slice indeed. Soft kicks are met with a tough well rounded bass that plucks away giving off a strong vibe as a synth note drones out in the back. The vocal is used brilliantly and sits behind the sound just enough to be very effective. The subtle percussions add smooth rhythms and are the perfect accompaniment to this quite minimal groove. Top stuff!
Lastly we have the Extended Zen Mix which is a fantastic journey through the ambient side of this track. Warm and melodic pads are the order of the day and these are joined with the now recognisable vocal which is a nice partnership. A cool synth arp comes through as a mighty crash introduces each section. Smooth deep basses fade up and take over the sound before kicks blast through making this a perfect piece for an intro in any set.
The impressive Moshic is back at Bonzai Progressive with his equally impressive new cut entitled ‘Do It To Me Now’. Moshic’s unique sound is well renowned the world over and he continues to deliver top quality with all that he touches. This new track has been given the remix treatment by three of Bonzai’s popular artists which will definitely help get this track noticed.
The Original Mix intros with a very cool sequence filled with tight hats and percussions with a teasing bass whetting the appetite. Subtle kicks sit back and let the array of sounds do all the work. A rising pad creates an intensity throughout as the groove takes on a gritty feel with the vocal coming through brilliantly. The bass continues to bubble up from below adding a very smooth texture, another fine progressive vibe from Moshic!
Italian producer Gai Barone delivers two stunning remixes on this pack, the first one being his Starsk Remix. The intro boasts a strong and intense drone with chunky kicks and sharp hats building around it as well as some smooth plucked strings. The synths bring in a little melody to the groove while retaining a dark atmosphere. The break unleashes more of those plucks with some heavy FX adding to the already fierce groove, superb stuff from Gai!
Gai’s second offering here is his On A Train Remix which gets us moving with a strong kick with a nice clip on top. Powerfully deep pads rise up giving a real progressive edge to the sound while all around some fantastic percussion takes shape. A strong piercing vibe ensues as expertly crafted FX go to work, all this is shored up with a wonderful deep bass that sits perfectly in the background. Simply stunning and no doubt will gain much attention.
One of Bonzai’s longstanding popular artists Manu Riga takes up remix duties with his Progtrip Remix. Manu is a firm favourite within the progressive realm not only with his own outstanding productions but also for his remix work which always gets plenty of recognition. Here he intros with a brilliant thumping kick with a rolling effect underneath. A resonating bass lingers in the depths waiting to pounce. Tight percussions begin to form rhythmic patterns while a synth pad begins to rise. The bassline evolves beautifully into a proper full on progressive workout as it rolls along in curvy patterns that will have any floor rocking. Plenty of twists and turn on offer here and a track that is not to be missed.
Audio Noir is popping up all over the place at the moment with remixes on many tracks as well as his own material doing the rounds. Here he delivers a stunning remix in his unique progressive way. Very smooth and classic intro with a powerful kick and skipping hats getting us under way. Deep droning basses rise up building the tension before the track breaks with a beautiful vocal over those heavy pads. The track crashes back with those kicks but this time accompanied by an amazing hypnotic bass that pounds the speakers. A superb remix out of Australia which will be a must for any set and most definitely not to be missed!
Afterhour Trax 11 comes with original tracks and remixes by Airwave, Jimmy Galle, Inkfish, Nico Parisi, Matteo Monero, Domased Electronica, Sector 7, Audio Noir, Aamon, Tolga Diler, Kintar, Rishi K., Thorin, Relaunch, Noa Romana, Deersky, Aggressor, Ivan Nikusev, JJ Grant, Napalm & D-Phrag, Blufeld, Castra & Sovve, Matan Caspi, Anthony Yarranton, Dark Soul Project, Mindgamers, Cordoba, DeepDoul Duo, CJ Art, Jonny Calypso, Dafar, Flembaz, Jakhira and Kindred Spirits.
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Crocy’s previously released ‘Cry’, featuring the vocals of Ashley Berndt, gets the remix treatment in this superb pack. The remixes come courtesy of some of Bonzai Progressive’s hottest artists at the moment, notably Audio Noir, Steve Sai and DaSmokin’Frogz.
First up we get deep into progressive grooves with Australian producer Audio Noir and his Sound Of Eden Remix. Phat chunky kicks get the grooves flowing and are soon joined by a bubbly bass that rises from below. Crispy hats and well crafted percussions provide a steady, flowing rhythm alongside smooth vocals. The break offers up a beautifully surreal sequence with warm pads and that sensual vocal on top of the contrasting deep bass. Superb prog house journey not to be missed.
Steve Sai delivers a solid house groove on his remix as cool thumpy kicks get the track moving with intricate percussion patterns coming through effortlessly. The now trademark deep bass on this track is the perfect companion to the sultry vocals of Ashley Berndt. In the background subtle melodies are woven through cool pads and synth keys. The track culminates in a true prog house groove that will have any floor shaking.
Rounding off this superb pack we have DaSmokin’Frogz Remix. Here the track is given a proper deep tech house makeover. The intro boasts a classic kick and hat combo which leads into the very raw, organic bass that dominates the track. Cool electro styled samples pop up along the way and add smooth textures to the sound. The break is filled with a myriad of blips and bleeps that contrast well alongside the warm pad and stunning vocals before building back up to the main track where we get locked into this solid groove once more, superb stuff.
Belgian DJ and producer Nico Parisi releases his latest work ‘Soulit’ which comes with three wonderful remixes. Nico’s tracks have been featuring heavily on many sets and charts in the last 6 months or so. Most notably his track ‘Caress’ (Philthy Chit Remix) was a popular choice on Paul Oakenfold’s Full On Flouro show. A testament to the quality on offer from one of Belgium’s legendary artists.
First up the Original Mix gets us going with a very smooth progressive vibe, the intro boasts a melancholic soft melody which gives rise to a superb throbbing bassline. Nice big kicks enter and deliver cool rhythms with the help of tight percussion arrangement. The track builds beautifully as the melodies unwind and dominate the break. Cool vocal samples come through on the break as the synths intensify before slamming back into full on progressive mode for the duration. Excellent stuff from Nico and no doubt we will be seeing a lot of this track in the future.
Sector 7 aka M.I.K.E. is up first on the remix with a proper gritty progressive edged workout. Mike, as you would imagine continues to be an extremely hardworking DJ and producer with gigs taking him all around the world. Back at his New York base he delves into his studio to churn out some of the finest tunes around and this remix is no exception. Pumping kicks alongside a powerful vocal get the track started while cool percussive elements build nicely and stamp out flowing rhythms. The bassline plunders in and the whole dynamic changes taking us deep into the progressive sound. Cool synth riffs wait patiently in the background before being unleashed on the break in all their glory. Stunning work from Mike and sure to draw a lot of attention.
Audio Noir sure does get around. Not content with his own quality productions, he lends his skills to other tracks with outstanding results such as this. Audio Noir’s Pressure Mix takes the progressive vibe on the original into the deeper realms. From the get go we are drawn in by a chunky kick and tribal led percussion arrangement with a massive resonating bass coming from way down below. The vocals are used well with a classic sample thrown to great effect. Intense synths sit back as the bass morphs into a metallic sounding riff that dominates the break before the synths show their full force. More top quality prog out of Australia that is most definitely not to be missed.
Rounding up this pack we have Netherlands DJ and producer Thorin. Thorin has been responsible for a litany of top class releases through various Bonzai imprints in recent years and he is also an very much in demand remix artist and DJ. The remix blasts into existence with a monster kick grungy bass combo, percussions slowly build and lead to a fiery rhythm. The vocals have been give a gritty makeover adding to the dark edge on the track. Fantastic synths loiter in the background as hypnotic sound dominates throughout. The break offers a softer side to the track before crashing right back into that solid progressive groove. Simply stunning from Thorin and will no doubt feature in those tougher edged sets.